Speaker 0: I don't get it. Those are the surprise bestsellers, Speaker 1: right? It's so interesting that you bring up students because I very intentionally set up my program so that it was passed, fail. There's no grades and I can't begin to tell you how many people still want to know how they're doing. And I always say to them, You know how you're doing. Nothing I say is going to change how you think you're doing deep down, and that is the whole notion of that reassurance that you're talking about before we get to that, and I keep sort of teasing it. I do want to talk about the second half of the title. That's all we've gotten to in this is the Speaker 0: title. Just give me a seven part (Time 0:25:53)
Note: If it doesn’t ship, it doesn’t count
Speaker 1: better and the possibility of, if your goal is to win to win. That's the second piece that goes right next to the other skills, and people overlook it because our industrial system doesn't really reward us for measuring that stuff. So my question to you here, Seth, is why not? Why doesn't our industrial system reward us for measuring that stuff. And then the second part of the question. What are the most important things to measure? If, if anything, Speaker 0: I don't think we get rewarded because it's hard. It's hard to measure, and the system is ultimately lazy, so it defaults to what's (Time 0:54:02)
Note: Seth Godin: people think I know what I’m talking about